Download Free Apps & Games @ PHONEKY.com
Download Free Apps & Games @ PHONEKY.com
Subject: The Truth About The Trinity
Replies: 30 Views: 2357
n_nick23 18.03.09 - 10:04pm
INTRODUCTION: Is there such a thing as a 'Trinity,' and was Jesus Really God or was he a lesser being than God? Is the Holy Spirit a Separte person from The Father or is he just a Force? *
n_nick23 20.03.09 - 08:26pm
The word 'Trinity' is not found in the bible, neither is the word 'Mellenium' nor 'Rapture' but the teachings are there. The word 'Millenium' comes from two latin words 'Mille' and 'Annum' in which 'Mille' is 'A Thousand' and 'Annum' is 'Years' when put together simply means 'a thousand years' *
n_nick23 20.03.09 - 10:26pm
''In the begining God created the heavens and the earth.''
Gen 1:1 (kjv) *
n_nick23 20.03.09 - 10:33pm
''Here, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.''
Det 6:4 (Kjv) *
n_nick23 20.03.09 - 10:44pm
NOW: Let us take a keen look at some of the Hebrew terms used in this verse. The word
''LORD'' in Hebrew is ''Adonai'' which is a title given to ''YHVH'' which is Abbreviated form of God's real name.
The word ''God'' in Hebrew is ''Elohim'' which is a pural noun, if literally translated woud be ''GODS''
The word ''One'' in Hebrew is ''Echad'' which means ''To collected together or United'' *
n_nick23 20.03.09 - 11:45pm
HENCE: we can come to realization that the Lord(YHVH) our God referred to in that verse, comprise of 'TWO' or more persons, Base on the pural terms ''Elohim'' and ''Ecah'' used to identify our ''Diety'' *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 12:01am
FURTHER MORE WE READ: ''God(Elohim) said, ''LET US'' make man in ''OUR OWN'' image, after ''OUR OWN'' likeness......''
NB: The terms us in this verse: ''Elohim'' (pural noun) ''Let Us'' (pural pro noun) ''In Our Own'' (pural pro noun) image and likeness. Gen 1:26 (kjv)
We can Definetly see that there are MORE THAN JUST A ''SINGLE'' Persons refered to in this verse. *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 12:08am
AGAIN: ''God''(Elohim) said, The man as become as ONE of ''US'' knowin good and evil.''
Gen 3:22 (kjv)
NOTE: The terms used again,''Elohim'' (pural noun) and ''Us'' (pural pro noun). *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 01:03am
ONCE AGAIN: ''God''(Elohim) said, ''LET US'' go down and confound their language.''
Gen 11:7 (kjv)
NOTE AGAIN: 'God said, ''LET US'' (pural pro noun) *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 01:45am
ONCE MORE AGAIN:
''And THE LORD(YHVH) said, unto ''MY LORD(YHVH).....''
Ps 110:1 (kjv)
TIME AND TIME AGAIN: We can see clearly that the GODHEAD comprise of more than just one single ''Person'' *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 01:56am
AGAIN: ''And the Lord said...who will go for ''US.''
Is 6:8 (kjv)
AGAIN: Term use ''US'' (pural pro noun) *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 02:04am
NOW: Let us take a look on how the heavens and the earth were created, to see what lessions we can learn. *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 02:10am
NOTICE: The bible identifies the ''three'' working together has one in Creation.
''In the begining God(Elohim) created the heavens and the earth.''
Gen 1:1 (Kjv) *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 02:53am
''By the ''WORD''(The Son) of the ''LORD''(YHVH) were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the ''BREATH''(The Holy Spirit) of his mouth. For he(The Father) spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.'' Psalms 33:6,9 (Kjv) *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 03:03am
NB: The word ''BREATH'' is the Hebrew word ''Ruach'' which is same Hebrew word transulated 'SPIRIT' in other places: such as
[Ecc 12:7 ; ect ] *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 01:10pm
NOW: It Doesn't end here, lets go to the NEW TESTAMENT to see if we can find the teaching of the HOLY ''TRIUNE'' GODHEAD as well. *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 01:36pm
''For as much then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the ''GODHEAD'' is like unto gold.....''
Acts 17:29 (Kjv) *
n_nick23 21.03.09 - 01:38pm
NB: The term the Apostle Paul use in reference to our 'Deity'(YHVH) - ''GODHEAD'' the Greek word is ''Theiotes'' which is a (pural noun), if translated literally would be ''Gods''
so... we can see clearly that its MORE THAN just a single being referred to here. *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:24pm
''For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and ''GODHEAD.....''
Rom 1:20 (Kjv) *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:28pm
''Beware lest anyman spoil your through vain philosophy and vain deceit....For in him(Jesus) dwelleth all the fullness of the ''GODHEAD'' bodily.'' Col 2:8-9 (kjv)
**What this verse is saying, is that ''Jesus'' in the flesh shows us EXACTLY how ''The Father'' and ''The Holy Spirit'' would be like if they were HUMAN as well. *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:30pm
Thats the reason why Paul said, ''For there are ''THREE'' that bear record in heaven, The ''FATHER,'' The ''WORD,'' and The Holy ''SPIRIT'' and these three are ONE.''
1 John 5:7 (Kjv) *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:31pm
FURTHERMORE: Thats why Jesus command us to ''Baptize in the name of the ''FATHER'' an of the ''SON'' and the name of the ''HOLY SPIRIT'' Math 28:19 (kjv) *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:32pm
CONCLUSION: So we can conclude that the concept of The ''Holy Trinity'' - The Three Divinity - ''TRIUNE GODHEAD'' is clearly taught in Scripture.
HOWEVER, there have been motions to conceal this truth, and in doing so the Jesuits and the Gnostics have produce a pletura of Bible translation, to iradicate this teaching. *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:32pm
The first instance of the removal of '1 John 5:7' was done by the 'Jesuits' in which the 'Jesuit bible' was rejected totally by the reformers. *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:34pm
REFORMATION *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:37pm
''ORIGEN: gives much information as to the mysteries of the 'Ophites' and there is no doubt that all the Gnostic sets had mysteries and an 'initiation' (reveal secretly to them by God). They all clamied to passes a secret doctrine, coming to them from Jesus Christ, different from that of the Gospel communications, which in their eyes were merely exteric'' (Morals and Dogma pg.542) In other words the gospel are for the 'unintiated' (the stupid people) *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 07:38pm
''The recieve text (The Textus Receptius) is old Byzantine text hundreds of copies in agreement. It was written in koine Greek of hundreds of words cannot be translated into Classical Greek. The early church use koine Greek m cripts and rejected the Alexandrian versions which was bas on the corrupt version with ''Origen'' and other ''Gnostic'' revisions.'' *
n_nick23 24.03.09 - 10:30pm
''Origen taught that Jesus was a created being who did not have eternal existence as God.'' (Encyclopedia Britannica, vol.16, 1936, pg.900-902) *
n_nick23 26.03.09 - 12:36am
BUT: God warns that those who ''ADD'' and ''TAKE AWAY'' from his ''Word.'' *
n_nick23 26.03.09 - 12:58am
''Ye shall not add unto the word which i command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it....'' Det 4:2 (Kjv) *
n_nick23 26.03.09 - 02:00am
''For i testify unto everyman that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall 'ADD UNTO' these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall 'TAKE AWAY' from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.'' Revelation 22:18-19 (Kjv) *
This topic is locked.
LETS-TALK-DOCTRINE Forum
